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            <title>African Grey Parrot</title>
            <description>By Mike Richard, owner Royal Bird Company &lt;br /&gt;
The African Grey 
Parrot has been a cherished pet in Europe since the reign of 
Henry VIII during the sixteenth century, and possibly even 
earlier than this time. This genus has 3 subspecies, one now 
thought to be extinct.  The other two are well known and 
readily available in the USA.  The small sub species P. e.
 timneh known as the Timneh Grey Parrot is smaller and 
darker in appearance than the nominate form and has a horn 
colored top mandible and maroon colored tail. The origins of 
the Timneh Grey is concentrated in the western coastal 
regions of Guinea, Ghana and the Ivory Coast of Africa. The 
nominate form P. e. erithacus is better known by several so 
called erroneous market names such as  Congo Grey, 
Cameroon and Ghana or West African Grey.  These labels 
have created a very confused public for many years. These 
names were normally used to identify the African 
geographical origin of a particular bird&apos;s ancestry, such as 
CONGO AFRICAN GREY: from the Central African Congo 
Republic and other central regions of Africa. CAMEROON 
AFRICAN GREY:  from the Cameroon region of Africa also 
central Africa. WEST AFRICAN GREY or GHANA GREY: 
from GHANA or the more western regions of Africa such as 
the Ivory Coast and Guinea.   Some less informed breeders 
and dealers try to attach these names to their birds today 
describing certain size or color variations, such as,  one 
breeder told me that he has a pair of Cameroon African Greys 
he would like to sell me. I asked him how did he know these 
birds origin?  He replied with  &quot; Oh, I don&apos;t know where they 
came from, but they are large and silver &quot; therefore they are 
the Cameroon African Greys or so he was told by a dealer. 
Some dealers knew that by attaching these names they 
could demand higher prices from the general public and even 
to so called experts even today, just look on the internet or 
pick up Bird Talk Magazine, the ads are full of advertisers 
with CONGO or CAMEROONs for sale. I get a laugh every 
time, sometimes even harder than when I see Bolivian or 
Columbian Scarlet Macaws for sale, but thats another story. 
Our business was started as a wholesale brokerage that 
liquidated quarantine stations in the late 70&apos;s and early and 
mid  80&apos;s, we would actually liquidate complete quarantine 
stations and resell the birds to pet shops, dealers and 
breeders, we sometimes would purchase and sell over 500 
African Greys and other species in 60 days. Most all large 
Grey importers knew us very well due to the volume of birds 
we purchased from them as they would always call us to 
inform us what was about to be available. In the early-mid 
eighties during the heyday of U.S. bird importation, I had 
several business deals and conversations with several large 
well known U.S. African Grey importers and African 
exporters. Some in particular was Darrell Alexander and 
Richard Furzer, some of the largest Grey Importers at that 
time. I asked them about the different shades of colors and 
sizes of african greys that we are seeing and Asked &quot;was 
different sizes or colors shades from different regions?&quot;. 
These importers said maybe so, but there was no way of 
&quot;anyone&quot; including themselves, the importers and exporters 
ever knowing what region a shipment of African Greys 
actually were trapped. Natives and trappers from many 
different regions trapped the birds in the congo, camaroon 
and other areas and brought them to one export point, usually 
somewhere on the west coast, where they were purchased 
and put in the same holding facilities as all the rest. No one 
knew from what region they came, no one cared. One 
problem was always that the governments always changing in 
these regions and it was always problems with transporting 
birds from Zaire-the Congo. So many times birds were sold 
as True Congo Greys when in fact they could not have legally 
came from these regions without more money being paid, and 
that was always out of the question with bird exporters and 
importers. In a single shipment of 500 or more greys there 
would be many color variations and sizes. It was common 
practice for importers and dealers to separate the color 
variations and sizes into groups, and attach names exotic 
names such as Cameroons, Congos, and Ghana&apos;s without 
ever knowing if these birds were actually trapped in those 
regions. They did not care if it was correct. It did sound good 
and exotic. But by attaching these so called names they got 
more money from people, even so called thought to be 
experts. Many breeders today still try to get more money 
from their birds by stating they have &quot;The Large Cameroons&quot; 
or something like that. These people do not even know where 
the original ancestors of these certain birds actually came 
from. Someone has told them by the colors, shades of lighter 
grey or sizes that have this or that. We purchased 1000&apos;s of 
Greys from importers and they did not even know or care. 
There are 2 known real species of greys today, the Timneh 
subspecies and the African Grey red tail Parrot...The only 
way, true way of actually knowing what a bird is , to be in 
Africa, Congo region and see African greys and those are 
CONGO, Be in the Cameroon area, those would be 
Cameroon greys and to some surprise to some people in the 
USA there are Cameroon greys that are smaller, lighter, 
darker, larger,etc. Many different sizes and color variations 
occur in all regions. In a very bad breeding year in those 
regions in Africa by food lacking that season, babies could be 
smaller and darker than the year before. By trying to 
differentiate a so called different type is impossible by looking 
at it. Does these geographical different located birds mean 
they are different species and should be classified as such? 
NO. The Timneh subspecies from the western regions  is 
nowhere even close to looking  like  the red tail. They are 
small, dark, have a dark or maroon tail and have a light horn 
colored upper beak. This true and only available subspecies 
is totally different. There is no way to confuse them with the  
real nominate African Grey.  ROYAL BIRD COMPANY  
Breeding Farm RESEARCH: 1988-1999 Question: Why is 
there a known pattern of variance in size and color of African 
Greys throughout Africa, starting from West to East is the 
darker and smaller to the lighter silver and somewhat larger 
birds being found more to the East and central regions. But 
these are not different species but only geo differences due to 
environmental circumstances. Some experts believe that diet 
and evolution can have the most effect on size and color. One 
theory is, since larger and richer mineral deposits and 
unlimited enriched food sources are likely to occur in the 
more central dense forest regions due to higher mineral 
content in the soils, these birds would have evolved slightly 
larger and have less melanin in the feathers creating a lighter 
increased  silver look about their feathers. Joseph Forshaw 
the renown author of Parrots of The World and other bird and 
animal researchers state that bits of quartz and many other 
high minerals was found in the intestinal tract of birds trapped 
in Eastern and Central African regions. Birds found in the 
western regions contained very little or none. The foraged 
foods found in the intestinal tracts of the western birds 
differed from the more central and eastern birds as well. It 
was compiled of less nutrient materials as a whole. The 
western birds contained foods that were not thought as highly 
nutritious as the birds from the eastern parts. These western 
birds would be of course smaller and darker than the birds in 
the east. Are they a different species?, absolutely not. 
Should any of these geographical separated birds be actually 
labeled Ghana, western, Cameroon, Congo or whatever? No. 
These birds colors may change or morph when the diet is 
corrected. As we have researched and proved on our farm 
sometime ago. When we starting collecting African Grey 
breeding stock in 1982 we noticed some birds that first 
appeared darker become more silver in color over time once 
the diet was corrected, therefore the above theory may have 
some merit. Of course we could not increase the size in the 
adult birds, we did see very distinct color changes over time. 
As we set up some of these slightly smaller and once darker 
colored birds for breeding and started producing babies, we 
also noticed that the babies from these pairs were much 
larger and more silver colored compared to the parents. We 
did pull each egg and incubate and handfed from day one, 
therefore controlling the diet and environment from a very 
early age. We saw very little difference in comparison to the 
babies from the smaller darker pairs when compared to 
babies produced from larger more silver pairs. Most all the 
babies did seem within acceptable range of color and size 
when compared. Even within the same clutches we do see 
slight differences in color shades and sizes. Also when we 
fed a less nutritious hand feeding formula (kaytee)  we did 
see smaller, darker babies as the end result. When we fed 
Lakes Diet we saw an extremely small and dark range. 
However when we exclusively fed HAGEN Tropican formula to 
our babies, we saw a more even range of color and size range 
being large and most silver in color both male and female. We 
feel that overall diet has more to do with color and size than 
anything else. However research is still ongoing, we still 
today continue to see even larger more silver birds coming 
from the original smaller darker pairs from the beginning. We 
now have 2-3 generation breeders from these birds and they 
now produce even larger and lighter color babies than the 
original ancestors. Therefore concluding, all greys that do not 
have large and silver coloration and be called a different 
species, when fed correctly over 2 generations of breeding, 
will produce very large and very light or silver birds, call them 
what you will, they are all african greys. Since all of the 
babies now produced in the U.S. are offspring of these  
original imports or from first generation, second generation or 
even third generation breeders, there is absolutely NO way for 
anyone,  to label a certain bird without absolutely knowing the 
origin and know that that birds ancestors came from that 
region such as Cameroon, Congo etc. No one can tell by 
looking at a bird. So do not be fooled by this practice by 
dealers and uninformed breeders that state they have 
something special such as Cameroon, Congo, etc. We breed 
the one and only available nominate species of Grey Parrot. 
The nominate species, we call the Red Tail Grey for obvious 
reasons. In this species there are many different sizes and 
color variations, but do we know for sure that a certain birds 
ancestry came  from a certain region in Africa? No, we do not 
and no one else knows either.  What difference does it 
make? Red Tail African grey is Red Tail African Grey. Some 
large some small, some light some dark. Our article has 
been published and accepted in many international 
newsletters, magazines, Scientific and Veterinarian journals. 
Mike Richard, owner Royal Bird Company 

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